Portlandia has been called “hipster-skewering” by more than a few critics. Are hipsters a legitimate problem? Do they really need to be skewered?

I think both of those words are nonexistent.

Which ones? “Hipster” and “skewering”?

Yeah. We do not skewer anybody. The characters on Portlandia are very much like us, right down to the way they talk. They pretty much sound just like we do. And their personality traits are very much like us. If we’re skewering anyone, it’s ourselves. And the word “hipster,” I can’t get a grasp on what that really means.

I’ve always thought it was a just a derogatory term created by people with low self-esteem.

Totally! Totally! I couldn’t agree more. It’s like politically correct. Politically correct is something you call somebody you don’t like or agree with, it’s not something that anybody actually is. It’s not a real philosophy. And it’s the same with hipster. No one says, “Hey, I’m a hipster now.” Because that doesn’t mean anything. In most cases, if you’re calling somebody a hipster, it’s less a reflection on them than it is your own anxieties and insecurities.

Whenever I hear people complaining about hipsters, I want to tell them, “It’s okay if you don’t like Arcade Fire.”

Exactly, yeah. Nobody’s judging you. It’s okay. Like what you like.

I think there’s this irrational fear that people in skinny jeans and thick-rim glasses are secretly making fun of everybody else.

And that’s just not true. We’re all insecure and uncertain about our level of coolness.

And here’s what’s really insane about the whole hipster label. As cool as we all think we are, there’s some underground movement happening right now, I don’t even know what it is, that’s way cooler than anyone can imagine. I get glimpses of it online. Someone sent me a link to a video of some DJ. I didn’t know who he was, and he was playing some huge venue that was completely sold out. We think we’re on top of what music is? We have no idea. There’s stuff that’s so ahead of us, there isn’t even a name for it yet. Those are the real hipsters.

So what you’re saying, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that if you’re hip enough to know who the real hipsters are, you’re way too hip to be using empty buzzwords like “hipster”?

Yes. Absolutely. I believe that’s one hundred percent true.